I caught up with Matthew and talked to him about one of his latest books, Beatitude, which helps us rediscover Jesus’ teachings of Matthew 5.
Tracy: What was your inspiration for Beatitude?Matthew: Lots of things inspire me. I think the most
inspiring moments in life are the simplest of ones, the ones where God
nudges us and doesn’t push us. Beatitude is full of those simple kinds of moments.
Each chapter or lesson includes some
personal anecdotes, even the horror of your 8th grade B.O. and the
humilation of acne. When did you figure out the spiritual lessons that
go with these examples?
I think I’m probably still learning the
spiritual lesson in body odor. Honestly, most of these stories have
been played and replayed over in my head since they happened … and I am
constantly learning spiritual lessons from things that have happened in
my life. That’s a part of the journey I believe. God gives us a chance
to learn and relearn the gospel through seeing our need for His story
in our own. But like I said, I’m still looking for the “lessons” in
some of those stories.
Each chapter starts with a quote and/or Scripture. Is the quote the lesson for the chapter?
The quote helps set the “emotional and spiritual”
stage in each chapter: I don’t think they “sum” up the chapter, but
they give the reader a place or thought to begin with.
Who will get the most out of this book?
Anyone who likes stories, ones that ultimately teach us about Jesus.
What did you learn about yourself from writing this book?
The process of writing the stories about your own
life can be grueling. You write down the story. Then you’re forced to
reread it a thousand times, adding detail, changing description,
rethinking how it should be stated. That process can lead one into
depression if not careful. Because sometimes in writing down these
stories, I felt like I was reliving them. And in a way, I wanted to
experience that so I can convey my accurate emotion during that
particular time. Anytime you look back on your personal story, you
relearn that God is constantly weaving himself into your experiences.
Some situations are more difficult to see that than others. What did I
learn about myself? That I am still very much on a journey with Jesus,
that I haven’t arrived at some ideal destination where everything just
fits into place.
Tell me about your other books.
Two books that I just released are called What You Didn’t Learn From Your Parents About Sex and What You Didn’t Learn From Your Parents About Christianity.
Both books are fun, informational reads about hard topics. I think
these books are excellent for helping us talk about the big issues
surrounding each of these topics. In Sex, I talk about
everything from masturbation to what King Solomon believed about
intimacy to what young adults need to know about sex before marriage.
In Christianity, I talk about the history of Christianity, the
questions people have about Jesus, and popular culture as it relates to
God, Jesus, and the church. The research involved on these books was
insane, but I sincerely LOVE these books. They’re perfect for anyone
who wants a hilarious read that I think will help them on their
spiritual journey.
You were the editor of CCM Magazine for a year or two. What do you think is the biggest challenge in the recent growth of Christian music?
Actually, Christian music’s biggest challenge is
relevancy. Who listens to it and why? Unfortunately, sales are down,
which could be from the “downloading” of music or it might be a
saturation of bands and artists in the industry or I think for some
people, they listen to the music that is coming out of the Christian
music world and are like, “um, who cares?”
And that’s a problem. When I was a big
fan of Christian music, artists were saying something, pushing me out
of my comfort zone. But today, a lot of the music is either poorly made
music or its lyrical content is quite cliché and irrelevant.
Some of my favorite Christian artists
are Derek Webb, Bethany Dillon, Nichole Nordeman, Sanctus Real, David
Crowder, Ashley Cleveland, Jars of Clay, Robbie Seay band. Those arists
are passionately telling stories that people can relate to. But
honestly, much of what I hear on Christian radio makes me wish I were
listening to KT Tunstall, Snow Patrol, or the Dixie Chicks. Most of the
music getting airplay on Christian radio is pretty shallow, saying very
little about God’s depth and passions.
You write about the humbling experience of leaving CCM. Why did you leave?
I was let go, actually. The publisher desired
that the magazine go in a new direction, and he didn’t believe I was
the person to take it there. And truthfully, he was probably right.
In your Beatitude you say, “If
the mercy of Jesus shocks me, why shouldn’t the mercy I show to others
be shocking too?” What should that look like in our daily life?
Our ability to live and show mercy toward
people—all people—should be so outrageous that it makes little sense to
those who experience it. I think most of us who are Christian are
afraid to show the kind of mercy that Jesus asks us to show. And
honestly, that’s because mercy hurts. And we don’t like being hurt,
taken advantage of, or inconvenienced.
How does this book compare to you previous book Provocative Faith?
Provocative Faith was a book of statements… Beatitude is the stories, lessons, and people who helped me to get to a path where I could make those statements.
You talked a lot about reaching out to
help troubled teens, AIDS victims, and the down and out. Have you
always talked about these tough issues?
No. When I was 23, I still thought AIDS was a
punishment against homosexuality. Over time, I realized that my point
of view of naïve, judgmental, and mean-spirited. Jesus loved people no
matter where they came from or what was going on in their life. I want
to pursue the same. And I’m not even close to being there. I still
struggle loving the fundamentalist.
You also talk about a 4 month period
where you questioned your faith and re-explored all your beliefs. How
did that exploration change you?
That time away from the church was a
reexamination of Jesus for me. Most of all, I learned that I don’t need
my spiritual life to fit together like a puzzle piece in order to know
that Jesus was/is hope, peace, and redemption.
How long did it take you to write Beatitude?
About six months from start to finish.
What do you most hope people will take away from Beatitude?
I hope they will begin to engage their faith as a
journey. Too many of us make faith a place, a spot that we’re
constantly going back to when we sin or when life gets
difficult. God is in our stories no matter where we are asking us to
come along with him, asking us to become a part of his story. That is
the ultimate message of Beatitude. Walk with God. Stop trying
to be perfect. Holiness isn’t something attained; it’s a gift. Receive
it, and then do the things Jesus would want you to do: feed the poor,
love the sinner, become the hands and feet of Jesus in this world.
You often push the envelope with your
honesty about often unapproachable subjects for Christian readers. How
do you find the fine line between honesty and inappropriate?
Honestly, I don’t walk that line. I simply tell my story. Now, my editors walk
that line sometimes, but more and more publishers are letting writers
open up and be real on paper. The deal is, the truth is sometimes
inappropriate. But I figure that the Bible is full of people’s
inappropriate stories—that’s why Jesus came, because truly, we’re all
grossly in need of a good bath.
Can you explain the meaning behind your book illustration of a little doll with money in his pocket?
It alludes to the opening story where I meet a
man who asks me for a one dollar bill—you’ll have to read the book to
find out what he ends of doing with it, and what I learned from the
experiences.
What would you most like to see change in today’s culture and why?
That all of us—me included—would become willing to sell all that we own, give the money to the poor, and follow Jesus.
If you could say one thing to Christians in America, what would you say?
Walk humbly with your God.
What are two things people might be surprised to know about you?
I never aspired to be a writer.
I’m a huge fan of the TV show I Love Lucy. When I was kid Lucy was all that we were allowed to watch.
Do you have any new book projects planned for down the road?
Yes. I am currently working on my first hardback, a book of story and satire that I am extremely excited about called Jesus Needs New PR.
It’s perhaps the most controversial, hilarious, and potent title that I
have ever written, and that’s probably why I am most excited about it.
It releases August 2007 through Tyndale House publishers. Can’t wait
for this book to release.
If you could have dinner with anyone, living or dead, who would you pick and why?
I’d love to ask Charles Darwin about his theory
of evolution so I could hear from his mouth what he truly believed to
be true about human development. He might be the most influential human
in the last 1000 years, and I think it would be fascinating to hear his
side of the story rather than hear a scientist or professor try to explain his side.
Also, I’ve always had a
huge crush on Jaclyn Smith; I wouldn’t mind lunching with her if my
wife would let me. I think she would; Jaclyn is like 55 now. But when I
was ten, I thought she was the most beautiful woman in the world.
What are three items always found in your refrigerator?
Skim milk. Red Wine Vinegar. And leftovers, mostly because I hate eating leftovers.
Besides the Bible, what book are you reading now?
Righteous by Lauren Sandler: It’s a journalist’s perspective on Christian youth culture—fascinating and alarming read
Eat This Book by Eugene Peterson: About spirituality, theology, and creativity
Naked by David Sedaris: A fascinating writer who exaggerates his personal stories with near perfection and hilarity.
What’s currently in your iPod?
I suppose you’re asking about music, right? J The latest from…
Chris Tomlin, [Christian]
KT Tunstall, [mainstream]
Brandon Heath, [Christian]
Leland, [Christian]
Beyonce, [Christian]
David Gray, [mainstream]
Dixie Chicks, [mainstream]
Jason Morant, [Christian]
The Fray, [mainstream]
Nelly Furtado, [mainstream]
Robbie Williams, [mainstream]
Shawn Colvin, [mainstream]
Derek Webb, [Christian]
Is there anything you do to beat stress and keep yourself in shape?
-Go to the gym three or four times a week.
-Get quiet and still as often as I can.
-Quality time with my wife.
You’re in line at Starbucks. What are you ordering?
A mocha Frapp with an add shot of espresso, no whip.
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